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is going to require compromise in a different type of deficit reduction plan. given all of those virginia jobs at stake, how can you say no to any type of tax and revenue increase, even if it is paired with a greater degree of spending cuts? >> getting our fiscal house in order in washington. i saw this as being another example of washington leaders not making decisions, putting off decisions to yet another commission, which, if it failed, as it did, it would be the responsibility of the federal government, which is national defense, as well as it being what is known to be over 200,000 technology and defense jobs in virginia. what we need to do is repeal or replace obamacare. but will sit trillions in spending, and that is harmful for business. i think we need to cut out and look at where there is redundancy in government. the government accountability office has put that forward. federal government employees, we have to reward them for cost- saving ideas. in the long term, a balanced budget amendment. tim said in the last debate that this is the right thing to do. now, he has, up with a
, there are also some tax hikes here, and wouldn't that do something to decrease the deficit? >> yes, it's the only specific tax increase that-- of both candidates and if you would close the deficit and turn some of the tacks to the higher levels, and the revenues for the government, revenue enhancement. however, to cost patriotism to say a small fraction of the country will have an extra tax burden, everybody has to pay more taxes, in fact, if you combine the tax proposals of mitt romney and president obama, together you would have a patriotic plan where you're removing some of the benefits of the lower people the last 10, 15 years and then, we would have higher revenues cross the board and that would lower the deficit the most, and the other things in this that are not particularly patriotic. a lot of the obama proposals think there's a small group that can fix the problems. the thing with the car thing, we all have to pay a higher gas tax and help the deficit, and have the cars making 80 miles per hour and we're the ones driving far. >> you say you want to wave the flag for patriotism, you say t
's budget you are going to have a trillion dollars deficit. he said, i have not done anything yet. [laughter] he said, no mr. president, the budget they passed guarantees no matter what you do, you will have a trillion dollar debt this year in the budget. a trillion dollar deficit, to be precise. these guys talk about the national debt. what date did generated the -- what they did generate -- generated the jobs since world war ii. it gave us this great recession. what they have not told us is what they are willing to do about it. we laid out a $4 trillion debt reduction plan over next 10 years. we have already passed $1 trillion of it. these guys voted against everything. not only did they say they did not like our plan -- what is your plan? you go out there and you look at the setup. an impressive bipartisan commission. simpson-bowles. everyone of those plans, they rejected. paul ryan even voted against the simpson-bowles plan as a member of the commission. he would not vote to let it get to the united states congress. why? it's important you know why. because they will not voted for a sing
deficit. they have to deal with the deficit. but once you're done with the deficit you have to rebuild the middle class in this country and nobody is paying much attention to that. we have a lot of rhetoric in the campaign but-- >> but the necessary done to help the middle class is to nail down the fiscal issues. if we don't nail down the fiscal issues, i don't think anything will matter. >> but i'm with you, i think it will happen because of necessity, because of the fiscal cliff. >> what it will take to rebuild the middle class? >> it's taken three decades to basically decimate the middle class. it will take something like that to rebuild it. but we have to be dedicated to that. we're focused on a fescal deficit not a human deficit, and we have a human deficit in this country. we have 27 million people either unemployed, working part time, unwillingly, or dropping out of the labor market. >> schieffer: let me work michelle into this conversation. as you sit here hearing this, it's always education that seems to wind up at the back of the line. >> that's right, that's right. and i thi
talking about the deficit. much of the reason is that when you look at states, iowa and new hampshire in particular, this is an issue that resonates as an almost psychic quality that resonates in this region. i think that that is one thing to keep in mind, one of the ways in which you have these kind of strands that don't always coherent way that works for you. i think that that is one thing to keep in mind. you know, it's really interesting to think about. you have this vaccination for much of the country. the broader swath of the electorate. .. gotten it right in talking about how we actually care about the safety. it matters a lot in a free enterprise society geared we actually need to have this. or it's not actually some kind of saying that we garnish on this ballot, but an incredibly important part of making the whole system work. the problem is that ryan, the reason he excited at this as further reason, the way he gives a very apocalyptic language of the threats to free a price and what have you. that is one reasons why governors have a big advantage over legislators. someone li
, trying to do deficit reduction is raising taxes and not doing the cutting on the other end. why don't we try a different approach? why don't we try an approach and cut stuff and then maybe raise, at thats later? >> we can't cut. we can't cut. we can't cut. >> then we're might as well as go down in flames if we can't cut. >> raise taxes. >> neil: charles, one of the interesting things this week, the 47% romney thing and i go back and forth no matter who's nose got out of joint as a result of the comments picked up at a fundraiser. the 47% should stagger you, how we get 47% don't pay taxes. i take nothing away from those on social security, retirement. for whatever reason we're close to paying no federal income taxes today and yet, the only way to correct this, and i think that ben is it an earnest guy and earnestly reading the map of the land is well, we're going to have to hike taxes on the well-to-do or do something like that because the spending cuts and-- so here we go on this group that we always hit up despite the fact that half aren't getting in at all. >> the spending cuts will ne
beating a drum about the deficit which is important but when you look at the concerns of american, let's look at the top five concerns. one, the economy. two, jobs. three, health care. four, education. five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >> right. >> i think now it's much clearer to people that these two things are related but they are quite separate and there are moments when balancing the budget or cutting spending on things like schools and public safety can actually make unemployment worse. i think something else important has happened, which is the health care law was very unpopular on election day back then. the health care law is gaining gr
the federal deficit, increase taxes and comply with spending cuts. the fed should not be doing anything else. to you agree with that? >> you know what, i don't agree with any of that. i am a part of that survey. and the bottom line is is that what i want to see his no increase in tax rate and a big spending cuts. the u.s. is spending too much. we are spending 24% of gdp. that is a huge burden on our economy. it's like -- and as a resource that usually carries 112-pound jockey having to carry a 250-pound jockey. there's no way that horse to win the race or run fast. we need to put this jockey on a diet. that's what we have to do. and raising tax rates on the course, the economy, that accomplishes the wrong thing. the way you balance the budget is you cut spending, and that will also boost growth in the u.s. economy. cheryl: i want to ask you this before we leave. this is something i kind of could not believe. we had the chief u.s. equity strategist at morgan stanley say basically we could kick qe for by the end of the year. possible? >> you know, i personally don't think so. this goes back to
, which deductions would you eliminate, let's be specific and how will you do that and reach deficit reduction, which programs will be cut? >> the question is, how do you get america back to work. what paul ryan said on your clip is, you flatten the base and increase -- excuse me, you increase the number -- reduce the number of deductions that are out there and you expand the base. that's typically what works. that can be done in a revenue neutral fashion that's what paul ryan has proposed and what that does is make america more competitive. mitt romney has been specific on how he would get america back to work and replace the failed policies of the president. andrea that's what this is about. the president's policies on job creation haven't gotten us back to work. 8% unemployment for 43 months. i mean what mitt romney said very specifically on job creation, is expanded trade by reducing the barriers, creating a better climate for america by keeping tax and regulatory policies in a better shape, energy. this president has been horrific we just lost 1200 coal jobs in virginia last wee
want to pay 1 dollar for it. dilemma has three governors in prison for $15 billion deficit. if they want to pay, that's the problem. misery needs to make the tough decisions. should they be put in the mix of whether we've reduced 70 or high-speed rail? is probably in the mix, but i don't think is before us now. i want to see what the load factors to be. that's my world. i want to see supply and demand. if the demand there? will supply. if not, we're not in a position to build it and they will come. we are just not there. >> jim higgins. >> okay, well i am not a transportation expert and i don't think these guys are either. actually i graduated from school as a civil engineer, but they work five years as a civil engineer, but lately i've computers. but why should a bureaucrat decide, you know, what mode of transportation is best, whether we have rail or highway is? it got us in trouble in the beginning. we built all these highways. we overdo it on the highways. now we have pollution and gas consumption because some bureaucrat decided that we needed highways. while now were t
that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern obviously would just be for the -- his mental well-being. >> wait? what? mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel th
campaigned in florida where he argued the obama administration inherited a trillion dollar deficit from the bush administration >>> that the two wars on a credit card without paying a penny >>> president obama and mitt romney tucker downed cramming for next week's debate showdown both sides work hard to lower expectations by praising their opponent. romney says the president has the advantage is one of the talented political communicators in modern history obama says romney has the edge to betting about two dozen times during the republican primary >>> in the both have ample experience debating but gov. romney has more practice recently >>> she runs the annenberg center at university of pennsylvania >>> in the challenger has the opportunity to challenge she is competent to stand his own against the president a challenger who accomplishes that wins the first debate >>> jamison says hope candidates called for a big moment that candidates remember like john mccain said bonn from a plumber that question president obama >>> john mccain alluded to joe the plumber and that barack obama would s
that time he has in fact voted several times to vouch erize medicare. i believe we can lower the deficit and debt, but we will not do it, we should not do it, we cannot do it at the expense of the important programs for seniors. >> welcome, everybody. thank you for coming out today. i want to give a big thanks to the missouri press association and giving me a chance to introduce myself to the misery and people. like many of you, i am tired of the constant fighting of republicans and democrats. beating the other team has become more informed than finding solutions to american's problems. america is on the verge of a financial collapse, and both parties are to blame with the reckless borrow, taxes and spend parties. for as long as i can remember, and most of you as well, republican and democrat politicians have offered up solutions, but america's problems have only gotten worse. higher and higher taxes. more intrusions in your business and personal life. enough is enough. i will stand up for your personal freedom. i will stand up for marriage equality, legalization of marijuana. i am fisca
cut the deficit in half. remember that one? it has been another trillion dollar deficit four in a row. that is 50% higher. is it working? >> no. >> it's not working and it is worse than that. the poverty rate is high. food stamps have gone up 50%. is it working? 4,300 dollars cut in take-home pay. is it working? >> no. >> here is the good news. help is on the way. >> yeah! >> mitt romney and paul ryan have the experience and record and they have the public policy plans to put america back to work. before we give a warm miami valley welcome to the next president and vice president of the united states i want you to give a warm welcome to a colleague of mine and friend who snuck across the border from kentucky today. he is a doctor who understands the dangers of obama care. he is a fiscal conservative who understands the nature of the record debts and deficits and understands they are a danger to our country and kids. finally, folks, he is someone who believes that we can not afford another four years of this. ladies and gentlemen, i give you mr. paul. >> anybody think it is time for a
be here doing the major things. people want jobs and have to reduce the deficit and avoid the fiscal cliff. this has been the most unproductive session in congress in all the years and decades that i have been a member. we have veterans benefits that will not be increased unless congress acts, we have people waiting for the government to do its job and it is disgraceful that we went home without doing the things that need to be done. we left for the election campaign at the earliest time in memory. the could have stayed here longer and we would call the republicans to bring this back so we can to the nation's business. the republicans have been extremely anti-environmental, hostile to a lot of the women's legislation, they have harmed the middle-class, poll last year and a half has been simply postures and get all the work that is to be done is not addressing these issues. congress should come back in session. we should be working, not taking this time off. i want to call my colleague chris van hollen. >> thank you, henry. there's a will to get things done. we just had the whistle blower p
on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics. here's running mate paul ryan just yesterday on fox news. >> there's been a traditional democrat and republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> chris wallace kept trying but came away empty-handed. he's not the only one. take a look. >> which of the deductions are you going to be willing to eliminate? which of the tax credits are you going to -- when are you going to be able to tell us that? >> we'll go through that process with congress. >> give me an example of a loophole that you will close. >> i can
came in office. i inner hadited the biggest deficit in our history. the last four years it went up and 90 percent is consequence of two wars that were not paid for and tax cut that is were not paid for . prescription drug plan not paid for and worst economic crisis since the great depression. that accounts for 10 percent of the increase in the deficit. >> brian: front page of the new york times. stuart rather thaney it is over one trillion. every budget when they do the math he is over budget by a trillion dollars. >> gretchen: he said 10 percent. wars and the horrible recession he was begin that only accounts for 10 percent. >> yes. >> gretchen: what about the other 90 percent? >> steve: george bushes fault? >> gretchen: i am anding a question. >> you are exposing the attitude of the establishment media to all of president obama and his economic record. break it down. the president said i am only 10 percent responsible for a massive accumulation of debt. he is a big spender, a very big spender and that's the principle reason why we have a massive deficit of trillion a year. he has
trillion national debt we have runaway deficits each and every year. we need to have the people down there and focus in a bipartisan matter. we do not need blood and teeth in the streets. we need people will find solutions. >> in this state, the legacy of senator kennedy is well known. part of that legacy is being able to compromise and work with republicans. can you name republicans in the senate that you are able to work with on big issues that the country faces? >> probably richard would be one that comes to mind. >> not going to be there. >> that is a problem. >> let me ask the question. are there any republicans that will be in the senate that you fill you can work with substantively and compromise with? >> it depends on what the subject matter is. let me give you an example. on the question of fannie and freddie -- fannie mae and freddie mac. the republicans have said across the spectrum that we need to revise fannie and freddie. i think there are wrong. at the that is an issue i think i could work with virtually every republican in the united states senate because it is an imp
about reducing the federal deficit? >> it was the starting point and there were a lot of good ideas in that particular commission. what we really stuck with -- ultimately, you have to put the whole thing into a budget to make it work. you have to balance those different elements and saywhat is a reasonable approach? it is all but what -- like what if -- it is a little bit what like families have to do. the budget has been set up for a vote and the budget has passed. was the budget i would have written? no, it was not quite as conservative. it was still a reasonable approach that puts us back on track to recovery. those budgets, of course, go where? to the senate. what happens when we send bills to the senate? they die. the budget saw in the senate and died. -- sat in the senate and died. that is the reason i am running for the senate. the senate cannot get anything done. it is the fed's rule of law that we are supposed to have a budget every year. i do not think the debt ceiling increase and another 10%, the sequestration of defense, is not an excuse to do and what the law says. >>
in deficits. >>> hundreds of mexicans are involved in the fast and furious. this is a terrible story, hundreds of mexicans may be involved. should attorney general holder be fired immediately over this new information? >>> the ism signals no recession, that's good. but is the obama-bernanke qe stimulus plan going to bail out the president in this election and what about down the road, does it give us a huge inflationary bubble? lee munson, he's chief investment officer of a port folio. you have got the feds blowing smoke and water and money at the stock market. we did have a good manufacturing report today, i like that because that's good for america. a lot of stuff that's not so good like jobs or unemployment. are you a bull or a bear? do you believe the market's going to go up or down? >> i believe it's going to go up, but the ism report, earlier this year we had bad job numbers and the market could lose steam going into the election, job numbers started to pick up all of a sudden, this manufacturing thing has been put to rest and it's going to alou us to focus more on this election. >> are
voters have no idea what you're talk about. >> the number in the times front page story about the deficit and, you know, the fourth straight year of trillion plus deficit, these are things that concern -- >> the american voters. >> and a number that resonates. talk about trillion dollar deficits an every normal person is going to go what are we doing. >> let's be clear about that ad. the ad is a strong ad, but generally candidates do straight to camera ads when they feel like they're in trouble. president obama did his one and only after the welfare ads started to hurt him, you didn't build that, he went straight to camera. romney's ad is a response to the 47% and what that's doing to him in places including ohio and to go back to curt's point about why romney is personally beyond the economic numbers, the president has had a problem with white working-class vote es for a long time. worse in the south than in the industrial midwest but still there in the industrial midwest. mitt romney is almost like -- almost the jerry built to be the worst possible candidate to talk to white working-cla
informed, mr. president, looking at this year's budget you are going to have a trillion dollars deficit. he said, "i haven't done anything yet." [laughter] he said, no, mr. president, the budget they passed in october of last year guarantees that no matter what you do, you will have a trillion dollar deficit this year in the budget. ladies and gentlemen, these guys talk about the national debt. what date did generated the slowest growth in private-sector jobs since world war ii. it gave us this great recession. what they have not told us is that they have been unwilling to do anything about it. here's the deal, folks. we laid out a $4 trillion debt reduction plan over the next 10 years. we have already passed $1 trillion of it. ladies and gentlemen, these guys vote against everything. no, no, no. i really mean it. not only do they say they don't like our plan, so you say, what's your plan? you go out there and you look at the setup. an impressive bipartisan commission. simpson-bowles. domenichi's. every one of those plans they voted against. paul ryan even voted against the simpson-bowles p
blamed republicans and the bush should ministration for the deficit. >> by the times be rains were turned over to barack and me, they had doubled the national debt in eight years. >> today, paul ryan campaigned in new hampshire. the granite state has four electoral votes. but that could make a difference in the race that could come down to a handful of states. >> thank you for sending mitt romney to the white house and barack obama back to chicago. >> the campaign is shifting to a different stage this week with wednesday night's showdown between president obama ann romney. >> if you have taken a look at the history of debates, it is not about policies. is not about facts. it has changed because someone did badly or did well. >> both candidates are in intense prep sections. romney may have the most on the line. his campaign is looking at this as a chance for a game changer. >> one more note from the campaign trail. and a four paul ryan has confirmed -- and aide for paul ryan has confirmed you will spend three days preparing for his debate with vice president joe biden. and new information
at the deficit, everybody knows the problem with the deficit. who do we think is more likely to deal with the deficit? someone who has run it up over a trillion dollars every year he has been in office? is that too is going to do it to? or do we think governor romney, a businessman who is committed to fiscal responsibility is going to do it? who is going to do it to? if the barack obama is in the white house four years from now, he will have appointed one half of all federal judges and he will have changed the complexion of the added states supreme court for decades. can we stand that in this country? is that what we want to? no. foreign affairs. the president of the united states went to new york today, yesterday. other presidents have gone to meet with world leaders to sit down with the israelis and other allies, people who he needs to understand. and interesting article this morning about his failure to do that. he went to new york not to meet with world leaders, he is on "the view." [booing] what a sense of priorities. he said after our ambassador was killed, after we look at the
but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous protest after an anti-islamic video. yesterday paul ryan and
policymakers but american people, we want a strong agreeing economy, that is the goal, not just deficit reduction or reducing taxes or reform, get this economy to lead in the world, that is what we need, a lot can be done, we can have tax reform, closes loopholes and lower rates for companies and individuals. we can cut spending in a way that we help with growth. and help with jobs. >> what do you think that ratio should be? spending cuts. >> neil, it is the $64 question, only policymakers can decided that. neil: but they are not deciding it. >> in past, in different time its was 50/50, i doubt you should to that now, during the budget talks in last year, they talked about three to one spending cuts over tax increases, you can put it did where you want, but in the condition we're in first of all you can't do this overnight, you need a 10 year plan because right now, the economy is not surging forward. neil: looking at december 31, and i guess that is what i want to raise with you, dennis, one thing paul ryan told me earlier, he does not think, unlike some more conservative purists in th
to the same standard as well. >> first of all, we have a deficit plan, it's got health care savings. romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. he's got a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are you hearing about all the debate preps today. he o'clock najs that this is an important opportunity in her debate. people have a tendency to focus on the small things, like the color of a candidate's tie or the dramatic one liners, which is his need to get across the big picture message. he says if he does that, he thinks he can be effective over the course of the next three debates and ultimately win this thing. we heard this morning from governor chris christie of new jersey, i want to play you another clip from new jersey this morning. chris christ >> and so they're going start t
, and their greatest threat to america is not military, it is the deficit. why do we have a deficit? we have a deficit because of the bushmen in their tax cuts, -- bush millionaires' tax cuts, because they are not paying their fair share of taxes. mitt romney is paying 14% of his income. i do not care how much mr. plummer made, but it is how much he paid. if mitt romney paid 14%, mr. plummer want to go to congress and he wants to write tax policy. don't you think it is fair that he discloses what his tax returns are? [applause] center brady, his running mate, in his failed bid to become lieutenant governor, released his tax returns. he did not pay any federal income tax for two years. what is it that mr. plummer has not paid? >> mr. palmer? >> i will answer the question. if you look and what is happening right now in the united states, if you look at what is happening, you have politicians of both polos -- part is not being honest with the voters. the bush tax cuts -- i will call of the obama tax cuts because they supported the extension. we have a tax code that is more than 72,000 pages, and grows ev
the math work on his deficit plan and his tax plan. are we going to get those details in the course of the debate? >> well, you know, david, i wish you guys were just as tough on the president. the president says he's going to create a million new manufacturing jobs. he doesn't say how. he says he's going to reduce the long-term debt and deficit by $4 trillion. doesn't say how he's going to do it. you know, let's be fair here. governor romney has laid out a direction and a vision for the direction of this country. he's not an accountant. he's not going to go line by line as much as you'd like him to do through the budget. but let's hold the president to the same standard and criticize him as well. >>> good morning, it is monday, october 1st. it's october, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." >> yeah, you know who's glad september's over? >> who? >> the jets. holy cow! >> i thought you were going to say mitt romney. with us on set, we have msnbc and "time" senior political editor mark halperin and national affairs editor for "new york" magazine john heilemann. guys. hi, willie. >> he
deficit reduction package to avoid damage to our national security, important domestic priorities, and our economy. joining us now from manchester, new hampshire one of the gang's members, democratic senator j n jeanne shaheen. great to have you on the program. >> mice to be with you. i would say, alex, it's not a new gang of six, i think but it does reflect a number of different groups that have been meeting and talking in the senate about the need to address sequestration, and i was part of the six of us who signed that letter in talking about what we could do to try and reassure the public, to reassure the markets, that we understand we've got to address this problem and we've got to do it in a way that provides certainty for businesses, for consumers, so that we have a long-term solution. >> senator, i want to get your thoughts, it is, i think, laudable that this is a bipartisan gang, as other gangs have been. four of the gang members, for lack of a better term, voted for the budget control act, which of course put the sequesters in place. what do you make of this movement now on -- b
, but you can't stop watching it. you'll see it. back in 60 seconds. >> greta: from the $16 trillion deficit to the stubbornly high unemployment rate, president obama supportsers are finding lots of reasons to change their votes. they're speaking out in a new ad for the romney/ryan ticket. shot clock. >> i voted for bill clinton twice. i voted for clinton. >> i voted for clinton. >> al gore. >> i voted for al gore. >> al gore. >> i voted for barack obama. >> i voted for barack obama. >> barack obama in 2008. >> i had huge hopes. but you know what, i got burned in 2008. >> the trillions and trillions of dollars of deficits. >> this time. >> this year. >> i've changed. >> i'm changing my vote. >> i changed my mind. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. >> to romney and ryan. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. they have plans and ideas that i believe will work. >> greta: joining us our political panel, rick klein, michael crawley, and justin sink. rick? >> find me a voter for voted for mccain four years ago and now says obama. it's a small segment of the population. this is the kind of message. it's a
cnbc poll, and a national deficit that will pass the $1 trillion mark tomorrow for the fiscal year for the fourth straight year. conventional wisdom saying that president obama should be losing, but there's a slew of national and swing state polls that show president obama building a small lead against republican rival mitt romney. joining me now, tameka simms, and lynn sweet. good afternoon to both of you ladies. >> hello. >> good afternoon. >> let's take a quick look at the polling here. president obama up by five in a fox news poll, six in a bloomberg poll, three in a politico poll, seven points in a "national journal" poll. why do you think that the president is edging out mitt romney in these polls, when the economic recovery has been so slow? >> well, it's a fairly complicated answer, and a lot of it has to do with voter attitudes towards the economy, less so than voter attitudes toward president obama or mitt romney. in many ways, voters have gotten used to the idea of a poor economy, even a lackluster one. and they've kind of gotten used to it. a quarter of the people who s
to start talking about the issues. they're going to start talking about the economy. why the deficit's been above $1 trillion now four years running, and maybe if the moderators get into it, what's happening in the middle east, and what they think they can do about it. i think that governor romney's plan's going to be to try to stick to the substance because i think the country knows we need a change. >> i'm only half joking about kicking out of the room. metaphorically, a lot of republicans want to see mitt romney do just that to the president. they want to see him verbally beat him up and make the points that you've made crystal clear and win the argument. but there's another argument that says that one of mitt romney's problems is he's not likeable enough and he may need to turn on the kind of easy ronald reagan charm which he deployed so successfully in debate. it's a fine line, isn't it, between being hard and aggressive and making a point, but also coming over as likeable. >> right. and piers, really, the way to deal with that, and i think this is true for any debate but especially on
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